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Content is king, my rear...
nickberry
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Joined: 22 Mar 2005
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All I've ever heard is 'content is king' in google's eye's; what a load. I've seen tons of sites that either re-published content or just had garbage i.e. most blogs with like 8 PR's. Yet when a real publisher comes online with say 439 unique articles unpublished anywhere else we get nothing in return from google for it. I know 439 isn't alot but the newspaper has only been in business for a year and a half. And we've only had all of our content online since mid november. My point is who ever started the 'content is king' was an idiot googleman or not.
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:46 pm |
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xboxundone
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quote:
Originally posted by nickberry
All I've ever heard is 'content is king' in google's eye's; what a load. I've seen tons of sites that either re-published content or just had garbage i.e. most blogs with like 8 PR's. Yet when a real publisher comes online with say 439 unique articles unpublished anywhere else we get nothing in return from google for it. I know 439 isn't alot but the newspaper has only been in business for a year and a half. And we've only had all of our content online since mid november. My point is who ever started the 'content is king' was an idiot googleman or not.
Content is king to get return visitors..... google has many factors besides content.
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:36 pm |
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nickberry
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Location: Dallas, TX
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We do keep the majority of our return visitors. We've been averaging about 60% fav pages for different content pieces. And about 45% make this my homepage for our front page. I was so excited to read googlemans comments about how content is king, and no i'm realizing he was wrong. It upset me quite a bit.
I know we've got way more backlinks than google gives us credit for. And this week for some reason yahoo dropped us down to 55 pages indexed? that's nut's heck we've been slurped 559 times since the begining of the month. This stuff is starting to get to my head I think.
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:00 pm |
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Euler
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Joined: 18 Mar 2005
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Why do you care about Google? Does a local newspub for a town like Abilene really serve content for thw world? Or just Abilene?
Let's talk about international hits. Are you serving up Mandarin, Taiwanese, Ukrainian, Swedish, German, Spanish (you could probably benefit from an Espanol version, by the way) or French? No? Then you just aren't ready for international primetime yet.
What about national news? Do you report on things of interest to a New Yorker? How about someone from LA? Houston? Maaaaybe, Houston, I could see Houston, but the rest of the country? I'd say no. Your content is mostly opinion and local stuff.
Here's the point:
You are doing great. You don't need google. Your time would be much better spent in local mktg campaigns because guess who your audience is - LOCALS!
So, SEO, sure. But don't obsess. Just make sure your page validates and you'll be hitting on all eight cylinders.
By the way, I LOVE Abilene. I traveled through there with my wife a decade ago, seeking our fortune. We camped in Buffalo Gap. It was a magical time for us. Great area. Keep up the good work on your rag too man, good luck!
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:17 pm |
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hoptoo
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I would make sure you code is not garbled with unneeded items, small and minimal when possible....but to ever visit that validation page is really a very large waste of time.
Start here
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=41952&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
The visit the lycos 50
http://50.lycos.com/
And see that no competitive term validates, check all the top spots for all 50 of the top searched terms IE: most competitive terms online this week.
Then
Check the search for "search engine optimization"
and see that no top 10 site on any engine validates
(last I checked during that thread).
This is not to flame since a good habit may be a good habit to form...
, and Im far from a pro...., as clean code in some sense is important for msn and yahoo and somewhat on google,
but to use that validation website is not the best way to judge what is seo friendly, not even a good way to do so.
Last I check the lycos 50, I couldnt find a single top 10 site that validated for any of the top 50 searches of the week....I found about 35% of them had over 300 errors showing, and I believe the average was about 171 "errors"?
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:25 am |
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Andrew
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I think content is king for websites.
No content, and visitors are reaching for the back button, no matter what you're ranked #1 for.
Good content helps get one-way links, and repeat visitors.
Google can't rank content. They currently just rank pages. There are some clever things they are doing, but it has a lot to do with links, and the words on the page and the like.
Content and ranking are related, but not equivalent. |
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:52 am |
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James Trotta
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Joined: 19 Mar 2005
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Location: Korea
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Content may be king for something, but of course not for SEO. Searche ngine bots have no way of determining whether my online ESL lessons are better or worse than some other site's (but in case you were wondering mine are better). Only education professionals would be qualified to look into that, and serach engine bots aren't even human...
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:06 am |
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Euler
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Joined: 18 Mar 2005
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I enjoy the wide range of opinion here. Nick, if you're SEOing, don't listen to me, listen to hoptoo and these guys. I'm no SEO pro, just some dude.
I still maintain that a valid page is worth the time invested. And unless you're just totally out of control of your page code, it really doesn't take much time at all to get compliant.
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:56 pm |
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Joined: 04 May 2005
Good Posts: 12
Location: MI
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quote:
Originally posted by James Trotta
Content may be king for something, but of course not for SEO. Searche ngine bots have no way of determining whether my online ESL lessons are better or worse than some other site's (but in case you were wondering mine are better). Only education professionals would be qualified to look into that, and serach engine bots aren't even human...
I couldn't disagree more... Lets say you had a AWS store with gardening products. If you had 50 articles on all aspects of gardening along with your Amazon store, you can bet that your going to get a lot of targeted gardening traffic from search engines. This intern will get you higher rankings in search engines for gardening words.
A good example is one of my clients Here , notice how they surround the store with great content and they also link keywords back to the product page. Once you do something like this your SE traffic can increase dramatically and its all targeted traffic and great SEO.
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Wed May 04, 2005 1:39 am |
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cmpolis
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Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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Content is king, but SEO helps.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:52 am |
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Cartman
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Joined: 14 Dec 2005
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There is no reason why you cannot make lots of quality content pages and seo them. In my limited experience Ive been getting a lot of hits on pages that I originally just made for content purposely, not realising they would rank high for targeted key phrases. If you have especially good content then people will hopefully link to your pages (not steel the content) therefore giving you 1 way inbound links to your interanl pages. I think content is a very important part of seo. |
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Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:12 pm |
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etech-racheal
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Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Updated content is one of the main point. Fresh content helps in getting trafic, also if your content is updated then your customers become loyal to your site.
Updated content also helps in getting high PR.
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Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:33 am |
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justicewhite
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Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by SEOforGoogle
Gotta agree - Content is only relevant to the user. To get good rankings in G, all you need are links and H1 tags...
And the page titles.
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